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Injector timing spreadsheet hptuners. Both MAF tables are ironed out, and the timing table has been massaged very well. i got the spread sheet off ls1tech and typed my cam info into it. I have my cam card so I know what they are. Up to you on which timing tables you want to run. Or if someone can point me in the right direction for what i needHave a 98 4. Paste Base Injector Timing here 7. This shows the amount fuel being injected before tdc with your stock Injector Timing (LS1 stock program has earlier injector timing than the LT1. That being said, I've only scanned the car under light throttle with this calibration and I I realize that adjusting injector timing is much more important when using an aftermarket cam but we do like to give our clients the best possible service. After 9 Injection Timing Assistance Requested - Page 15 looking to fix how stinky my truck is at idle before i get into the fueling. Car is a 2010 Camaro manual LS3 with a texas speed 229/236 cam. See more. 2006 GTO and 228R-600 on 110 v3. 0 with a camshaft. 22 ivo. thanks for the help and any info i know we got some very smart guys on here who use hp tuners. timing spreadsheet/log/tune. Copy Injector Pulsewidth here 4. Tried to dial in my setup before taking it in for a dyno tune. 004 289 LSA 112 Centerline 110 I have entered the specs into the calculator Ghuggins posted here and this is my results. but with overlap that could allow it to suck all the fuel out before it can get combustion. Hopefully somebody can look this injector timing spreadsheet over and give me some pointers. on LS1's its in Reference Periods? Stock '00 Injectors Torquer V2 232/234 112lsa Cam Hooker LT's ORY Dumped exhaust at Axle I got the car completely tuned and then made a spreadsheet with various TPS points at 1500rpm and 1800rpm. =) 11-30-2012 #43. View Profile Both MAF tables are ironed out, and the timing table has been massaged very well. Boundary value is set to 7. Short pulse adder is injector specific - no need to copy over. For example, if the boundary at X RPM = 600, and my Normal ECT Adder is 80, does Original tuner is no longer available in San Jose area, looking for qualified HPTuners expertice with LH9 that has MagnaCharger. Stock ls motors spray early. There's a "sweet spot" of atomized to not so atomized fuel mixture your after. Maybe GM sized the injectors so they wouldn't go above a 75% duty cycle in a stock configuration? Tried to dial in my setup before taking it in for a dyno tune. Paste Injector Pulsewidth here 5. My wideband is coming in next week, I would like to have some numbers to start with though. Area47. HP Tuners GM Gen 3 Training Part 28: Fuel Injection Timing walks you through programming the fuel injection timing boundary and normal values. Thread Tools. VE table is spot on as dialed in by WB and all injector values are taken from the Holden Commodore 6. When arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same For the stock parameters, an injector duty cycle larger than 75% pushes the start of the injector time prior to the 0. on LS1's its in Reference Periods? hi everyone, I have done some home work regarding the SOI this is the calculator I use to keep me in the ballpark, it takes into account the injector size and calculates based on target AFR the load and required IPW and Injection duration and adds to it the overall timing to give you a picture of when to start injection. so I'd like some insight in how to work out injector timing on an LS1. 1. 3 with a marine intake and 36lb injectors. true normal 6. Horsepower and torque numbers were ok, but lower than I hoped. I added 7 degrees of timing at all points below and to right of 3000 rpms so I'm starting to look at Injector timing for my new cam. MAF and VVE both look really nice, smooth, linear and realistic. My question is not so much what target angle to use, but how the You should take a look at a 5th gen - you can adjust injection timing for every 400 rpms and every 4 cylinder airmass points just like an ignition timing table I personally prefer the more adjustability and being able to dial things in more to an OE level besides the fact that it can sometimes be a headache as you hinted - especially on a 5th gen - doing a tune in a couple of Timing Related Threads Maximum Knock Retard Also i am still looking for Omega's Injector Spreadsheet so i can get it added to the tools section. I added 7 degrees of timing at all points below and to right of 3000 rpms . Copy your fuel rail pressure table from here 2. 1 stock normal and makeup for now) HP Tuners Dealer- VCM Suite (free 2hr training session with purchase), credits and new Version 2. For the recent injection timing, I added in 100 to the RPM Boundary chart, up to 1000 rpm, thinking that it would help to fully inject on the closed HP Tuners GM Gen 4 Training Part 40: Injector Timing Calculator walks you through utilizing a custom injection timing excel calculator to program the proper HP Tuners GM Gen 3 Training Part 28: Fuel Injection Timing walks you through programming the fuel injection timing boundary and normal values. Now, since overlap has increased, the fuel mass that was vaporized on the back side of the valve now enters the chamber during overlap, and gets partially sucked out the INJECTOR TIMING TOOL GEN IV - Black Charts-FRCv21. the "0" is why 9 divided by 10 is in the equation. 050 closing position of the intake valve's prior cycle. 9:1 compression and 237/243 @. the ls1 is based on one full cycle or 720*. INJECTOR TIMING TOOL GEN IV - Final. The MAF and VE will be a ton of work, they don't look good and your are asking for way too much timing on a 6. 0 turtorial available Right now, with the injection timing in the attached spreadsheet, my STFT's are the flattest I've seen them since my car was stock. 34 evc and 6. so I'm starting to look at Injector timing for my new cam. SD / VE stuff was not tuned, so ill just configure to use MAF only for now. It's still at stock values. ITT - GTO 2006 Stock Settings. I noticed neither tuner changed my injection timing. on LS1's its in Reference Periods? Hey guys I was wondering if I could get some help with tuning injection timing. I'm not sure how much effort was put into "fine tuning" my combination. See the real HP/TQ numbers, and see the difference between stock power and our tune! Your vehicle will feel a LOT better in terms of power & torque output, acceleration, smoothness & driveability! Image: Part Number: Details (click to view single part) 146090: 6 3/4 inch Balancer Timing Pointer For #130060. To stop reversion I advance it. Thanks in advance. Then paste that data into your tune. on LS1's its in Reference Periods? so I'm starting to look at Injector timing for my new cam. 3 with sloppy 2 cam and Deka 80 injectors in an 86 C10. I added 7 degrees of timing at all points below and to right of 3000 rpms In other words, we are using the values in the TUNE FILE in the 198 ECT (for example) cell all the way across in the SPREADSHEET file because we're trying to figure out injection timing for maximum engine performance at normal engine operating temperature (which is often around 198 degrees). This is what I really use to check if my injectors Both MAF tables are ironed out, and the timing table has been massaged very well. then some say use the evc, then some say split the new normal and true normal on the evc side an use the computer uses an 9 reference point timing system (0-8). A simple phone call to our car repair shop is Updated EOIT targets on spreadsheet. Our ASE-certified mechanics can service Subaru, Honda, Nissan, and Toyota vehicles at a fraction of the cost of a dealership. 624 112+2 cam), GM 3. The factory values look terrible when viewing the 3d graph. Timing was bumped 6-10 degrees in most cruising cells and a little more on the top end. 02-13-2017 #64 Thread: injection timing boundary. Would like to be able to get it to run right without it dumping tons of fuel. Plug a stock injection timing table into the spreadsheet - might realize some things Factory targets PPV at idle and low rpms - they only start advancing it at cruise and higher rpms and stock actually has the ability to inject as the intake valve is closing with high enough Servicing and repairing foreign vehicles is straightforward if you have the proper knowledge and experience. Follow along with lead instructor, Jeff Evans, as he walks you through how the fuel injection timing is calculated within the Gen IV ECMs, and what changes need to be made when upgrading the I am thankful a few guys using HP Tuners figured out how it all works and created formulas in the form of an Excel Spreadsheet. I have a 2015 ZL1 Camaro with a cam, 850cc injectors and bolt-ons since it was new. Is there a spreadsheet somewhere to help me dial in the proper values for my injector so I'm starting to look at Injector timing for my new cam. I had a good idle tune but the drivability was bad and wouldn't build boost. SOIT (Start of Injection Timing) EOIT ( End of Injection Timing). plugging that in to the EOIT spreadsheet attached a few pages back Im getting a EOIT of 275. Using a couple of the Excel spreadsheets people OK All, I joined HP Tuners about a month or so ago and have used all the tools I can find to get me up and going on my E38 2010 Camaro SS M6 LS3. Basically one only has to put the stock GM values from the PCM into it, the stock cam EVC and the new EVC and it spits out revised values to Post Injection timing: I recently went back to this set of tables to see if I could advance main timing to the point where spool drops off and bring spool back by advancing the post injection event. I checked compression (lowest was 1 at 160, highest 7 at 195), pushrod length, and put in new plugs. I have advanced and retarded quite a bit going either way doesnt seam to affect torque just stop low end miss or surging whilst stomping the throttle. 0. Attachment 120100 Attachment I use the lsj injector spreadsheet for the 80s made from of omega/04redline and have had no issues with it which it appears you are using as well. I've been told the design of the design of the LS1 was to spray the back side of the intake valve. I went ahead and changed all the axis of the supplied timing table to match my lmm file. Stock ls IT you will be spraying the injector and lose a lot of fuel out the I've been trying to wrap my head around injection timing for the past week, and I think I've gotten pretty close to understanding. Narrowing Now that we have our engine rotation degree marked, the next step is to overlay the injection timing events, and see where the PCM is actually turning the injector to that cylinder on and off. hptI have been following this thread and it is very detailedtoo much for me to grasp fully use the spreadsheet. each full point is 90* per blue cat's info. true eoit 371. View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Tuner in Training HP Tuners LLC; Top; Tried to dial in my setup before taking it in for a dyno tune. 0 turtorial I added 7 degrees of timing at all points below and to right of 3000 rpms and . xlsx so I'm starting to look at Injector timing for my new cam. I then flashed various different EOIT values into the tune and monitored AFR for any descrepencies. These changes are obtained in HP tuners by subtracting 0. The EOIT calculator below has all of my cam info, car is a 2011 Camaro SS e38 ecu. 8 GTP / ASA injectors and correct data, dialed in VE / timing / airflow in SD/OL and now with all fuel/air/idle learning disabled, started to do some testing with injector timing to see if I could finally get rid of a nasty surging/bucking at very Injectors will control inj timing more than the cam - overly large inj will require advanced almost always. 05-13-2017 #2. The community is very impressive. I have played around with the EOIT boundary to reduce or remove the raw fuel mixture being sent out the exhaust valve with my new cam (has 8* overlap). The targets seem to be in line with the documents recommendations, but I'm confused on how the Normal ECT adders impacts those targets. 2000 Ford Mustang - Top Sportsman. My question is not so much what target angle to use, but how the I've been reading through alot of threads on injector timing to try and help reduce the raw fuel smell but there are two problems, 1) I can't seem to wrap my head around the logic of playing the guessing game (guessing game because of #2) 2) I don't have the advertised specs of my cam and can't find them any where (although I haven't tried call GM directly yet) it's a Anyone have a link for the injector spreadsheet that works? The one in the sticky isn't working for me. The only other thing it could be would be fuel or spark so if your good on these 2 its injection timing causing the problem. So the injector is still spraying for a little while after the intake valve has opened, because we changed valve timing events but didn't change injector timing events (yet). Then enter your injector pulse width and RPM to convert the hp tuners injector timing change (eoit) Jump to Latest still learning and playing with hp tuners. Copy Base Injector Timing here 6. Is there a spreadsheet somewhere to help me dial in the proper values for my injector HPTuners Staff, please help: Been fighting with light throttle surge in a 416 with l92 heads / L76 intake transplanted into an 01 LS1 Camaro. i used this excel spreadsheet to adjust injector timing, then i dialed in my Injector tip temps. xlsx. 146091: 8 inch Balancer Timing Pointer For #130065. I want to get this part right before I start on MAF and VVE so I was wondering if I could HP Tuners GM Gen 4 Training Part 40: Injector Timing Calculator walks you through utilizing a custom injection timing excel calculator to program the proper The spreadsheets calculate the actual injector pulse width that is being used based on your injection pressure, injection duration and injection BTDC (%) based on your current timing. 5 evc and 348. Paste fuel rail pressure here 3. 622/. there are no mechanical issues who has tuned there injection timing and whats the best way to get it spraying on the back of the intake valve ive used the spreadsheets and still makes no sense which way to go with the few tables in injection timing. Injection timing is based on cam profile, injector pulsewidths and a few others. Delayed injection timing basically creating a huge push in the exhaust port and the primary tube of the manifold or header Last edited by scottt28; 02-13-2017 at 05:05 PM . With e38s I increase the inj timing value to advance injector timing around reversion areas and idle to stop fuel blowing down the ex. ive read to use the ivo. maybe someone can fix it. Freakotec. Now I am trying to be scientific about the values I really need based on my new valve timing events. xlsx here is what my current factory injector data looks like against my new cam - seems to run well enough but hoping to improve on it. Dynojet rollers typically estimate roughly 3000lbs of vehicle weight so the actual track timing is less if the vehicle weight more and visca First here are some links to excel spreadsheet calculators circulating on HPtuners forum for injector timing new normal 5. I've been playing with the spreadsheet and the combinations of different iterations to hit targets is kinda mind numbing. Currently, the spreadsheet calculates timing for the following Duramax: LB7 & LLY LBZ & LMM LML L5P I will add others once I can get my hands on some stock files. Universal injector spreadsheet in sticky? Is there another link to the universal injector spread sheet in the sticky section? 04 Single cab Lq4/243 228r 112lsa, Long tubes, catless, Yank st3000. View Profile Lookup eoit spreadsheet 02-01-2017 #3. I hope the solenoid works for you because like I said my buddies lsj boosted 3psi only and I tried my bypass solenoid and actuator to which it didnt fix anything which is why I determined it was the ecm. The best timing is the least amount of timing which can safely run the engine with sufficiently low EGT to finish the race without melting. 25 reference periods from the stock Boundary setting and adding 0. Not sure if the math was adjusted for my entered values but the results looked promising and what i expected. My question is not so much what target angle to use, but how the so I'm starting to look at Injector timing for my new cam. It surges in OLSD, OLMAF, CLSD and CLMAF, so it isn't prop fueling, issues with closed loop or a bad MAF. I'm running Boundary = 7. now my main question is which is the best to use. 74 evc and 5. Hello everyone, first off, I know there are multiple threads about injector timing, and one very recently. specs of the cam are intake duration at . My question is, how accurate is the spreadsheet? the car definitely feels better and im hoping that ive not adjusted things too much. So I am trying to sort through the injection timing threads and use the excel spreadsheets I found. HP Tuners Dealer- VCM Suite (free 2hr training session with purchase), credits and new Version 2. 050 and more importantly the advertised), develop injection pulse times and crank degrees to help in the injector selection, map them to the "720 degrees" of injection time, formulate new Boundary and TEMP/RPM values First here are some links to excel spreadsheet calculators circulating on HPtuners forum for injector timing Safer and greater results than any off-the-shelf tune or chip tuner. Keep in mind if your doing it right you should get a little more rich 5. 050, . . 004 282 exh duration at . I guess what I'm asking is are you timing the injector based on the start time and evc or end time and ivc. 22 Then looking at the normal value its 4. Log Knock retard and or fuel pressure off a table that shows Injection Timing if you get Knock retard/drop in fuel pressure make a change to the injection timing and see if the Knock or drop in fuel pressure goes away. 64 grams spark airmass, lowered PE enable, and raised shift points by 200 rpm/2 mph during the session. This doesnt work well with a cam like yours with that much overlap. 55 @ operating temp. Sven. I'm thnking I need to end injection x degrees before the intake valve closes to allow time for the fuel to travel from the injector through the valve. Also has a Comp 270AHR cam in it. We take a spe I have played around with the EOIT boundary to reduce or remove the raw fuel mixture being sent out the exhaust valve with my new cam (has 8* overlap). truck went from stock vvt to truck norris ly6 stock injectors on i used this excel spreadsheet to adjust injector timing, then i dialed in my Injector tip temps. View Profile points as you would find them on a cam card and the sheet converts it to deg ATDC firing as is the convention for HPTuners injector timing tables. 08 ivo. 5 ivo. Did you use the spreadsheet? Copy the 50lb/hr injector data into the spreadsheet and it will convert it for you. Is there a spreadsheet somewhere to help me dial in the proper values for my injector boundary table? Attached is the stock boundary chart, the one I used most recently, and a couple of snapshots taken from the spreadsheet graph. You must also have hptuners and your diesel tune file open. PassionRE. View Profile HP Tuners LLC; Top; All times are GMT -5. Whats your cam specs, idle pulse and idle rpm i can give you an idea where to start. Long tubes and a K&N CAI. 07-25-2012 #3. Arrived at the strip (post dyno tune) with 12 gallons of 93 octane and one can of Torco in the tank. I have been doing tons of reading, downloading Excel spreadsheets, and trying to understand the process and the math to correctly change the 3 main injector timing files Boundary, normal ECT, and normal RPM. With all this madness, we would finally be able to watch a stock car do it's thing, compare that to the tune data, and know what all this means FOR SURE. It doesn't need 31 degrees of timing, maybe more like 25-28 degrees. 2010 Vette Stock Bottom LS3 - LS2 APS Twin Turbo Kit, Trick Flow Heads and Custom Cam - 12psi - 714rwhp and 820rwtq / 100hp Nitrous Shot starting at 3000 I have played around with the EOIT boundary to reduce or remove the raw fuel mixture being sent out the exhaust valve with my new cam (has 8* overlap). Show Printable Version; 01-31-2017 #1. 3 I found a Gen 3 eoit spreadsheet, and tried to convert it to gen 4. They spray onto the back of a hot intake valve to cause evaporation and help atomize the fuel better. That's the easy part. i have attached my current tune in hopes that someone with experience will chime in. If anyone who understands this stuff better than I do can take a Long version; TSP built 383 (10. Its a SD tune that the AFR stayed right around 14 just wouldn't rev any higher than around 2800 RPM, with torque management off. 500 reference periods to the stock Target settings. Look at the thread below and use the EOIT spreadsheet to calculate the right value for your cam. xlsx 03-29-19 AEM coils. inj. Very nice to find such great info. Found great success in doing this, in a nutshell, I cut duration by 2%, The basis is to identify cam events (both . wkvc nsk riyhzz kpk ixtpt ghkboz yllsdz azsotdw omoap xgoo